WASHINGTON â" Senator Marco Rubio, Republican of Florida, continued his conservative media tour Tuesday with an afternoon telephone interview on Rush Limbaughâs talk radio show. The back and forth went so well, from Mr. Rubioâs point of view, that at 6 p.m. his office was still tweeting out highlights from the exchange.
That Mr. Rubio was there to woo Mr. Limbaugh, who has been a constant opponent of an immigration compromise, became clear at the outset, when Mr. Rubio said he had been listening to Mr. Limbaughâs chatter for a long while.
âI remember the TV program,â Mr. Rubio said. âDo you remember your TV programâ
Mr. Limbaugh did indeed, laughing, âThatâs way back,â he said. âThatâs 20 years.â
Mr. Rubio laid out his broad principles for immigration legislation, including a precondition, popular with Republicans, than any pathway to citizenship could come only after additional border security and an employment verification program are instituted.
When Mr. Limbaugh worried aloud that real border security wouldnât happen, Mr. Rubio quickly agreed. âThis is going to be a challenge,â he said.
âIf, in fact, this bill does not have real triggers in there, if there is not language in this bill that guarantees that nothing else will happen unless these enforcement mechanisms are in place, I wonât support it,â Mr. Rubio continued. âBut the principles clearly call for that. Now, obviously, we have to make sure the law does, too.â
Mr. Rubio also sought to explain his decision to join a bipartisan group of eight senators pushing for immigration legislation as a politically savvy move. When Mr. Limbaugh warned that he thought President Obama and Democrats planned to use immigration as a wedge issue, âto continue to beat the Republicans up for two more years in hopes of winning the House,â Mr. Rubio acknowledged the possibility, before adding that it was one of the reasons he wanted to ge! t out ahead on an immigration overhaul.
âThatâs precisely why I thought it was important that our principles be out there early,â Mr. Rubio said. âThey can try to sell that,â he said, referring to Democrats, âbut I doubt people are going to buy it because the reality is we have put something that is very common sense and reasonable. If you take our principles, 70 percent of the American people would agree, if not more, with the general principles that we have outlined. And if they want to go further than that, then I think theyâve got a problem because they canât argue that we havenât tried to do our part to come up with something reasonable here, which has always been our point.â
He continued, âOur point has always been we understand we have to fix this problem, but just because weâre not for what youâre for doesnât mean that weâre anti-immigrant and anti-immigration.â
Mr. Rubio cast himself as the politician for the job â" âSomeone whose family are imigrants, married into a family of immigrants, my neighbors are immigrants,â he said. âIâve grown up around it my whole life. I didnât read about this in a book. I live this every day.â
Echoing a point he made at a news conference Monday, Mr. Rubio said, âIâve seen the good that legal immigration has done for our country, and I see the strain that illegal immigration places on our country.â
By the end, Mr. Limbaugh seemed downright smitten.
âWell, what you are doing is admirable and noteworthy,â Mr. Limbaugh said. âYou are recognizing reality. Youâre trumpeting it, youâre shouting it. You have a difficult job ahead of you because you are meeting everybody honestly, forthrightly, halfway. Youâre seeking compromise.â
Then, the talk radio host sent Mr. Rubio off with some well-wishes: âThe country really does hinge on it, I think, so the best to you, and good luck.â